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« on: Jan 18th, 2011, 2:29am »
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How red the rose leaves fall—
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Upon the dial's disc, whose pedestal,
Black-mossed and dark with stain,
Crumbles in sun and rain.
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« Reply #1 on: Jan 19th, 2011, 7:46pm »
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Hah! It looks like the pom-pom on a '70's football snowcap came to life!
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« Reply #2 on: Jan 19th, 2011, 10:52pm »
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Yes, he is cute, but look at his expression...
 
And in an unrelated thought...remember Gordon Lightfoot? I've liked him ever since "The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald"...anyway, here is one of many great songs by him...
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKID-4g3_6k
 
You may say to yourself, "is this post in the right place?" The answer would be:
Yes, it is...
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« Reply #3 on: Jan 20th, 2011, 6:09pm »
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I really enjoy Gordon's folk music. Bitter Green, Canadian Railroad trilogy, and Carefree Highway are just mindblowing. As overplayed as it is, If You Could Read My Mind is just crushing. I could listen to that song all day.  
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 22nd, 2011, 12:17am »
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Part 1: I agree Ed, I love all those songs that you mentioned...
 
Part 2: And in an unrelated thought, that has nothing to do with the above thought...
 
Frozen shoulder, or adhesive capsulitis, is a condition that causes restriction of motion in the shoulder joint. The cause of a frozen shoulder is not well understood, but it often occurs for no known reason
Frozen shoulder causes the capsule surrounding the shoulder joint to contract and form scar tissue. Well ,there has been an algid draft down these antediluvian corridors...
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« Reply #5 on: Jan 22nd, 2011, 8:45am »
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Growing old's a bitch, isn't it? I have a new ache in a different spot everyday. When one goes away, another appears somewhere else.
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« Reply #6 on: Jan 22nd, 2011, 11:23pm »
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Growing older certainly isnt for the faint of heart, but Im afraid Ive been misunderstood...
 

 
The origin of this expression which is often repeated is that visitors to a house who were welcome were given a hot meal but those who weren't were offered only ' cold shoulder of mutton'. This is repeated in several etymological texts, including Hendrickson's usually reliable 'Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins'. There's no evidence to support this view though and it appears to be an example of folk etymology.  
 
The first reference to the phrase in print is in Sir Walter Scott's 'The Antiquary', 1816:  
 
"The Countess’s dislike didna gang farther at first than just showing o’ the cauld shouther".
 
'Cauld' is Scottish dialect for 'cold'. Should you doubt that 'shouther' means 'shoulder', Scott goes on the use the word in other contexts which make the meaning clear. For example, "They were stout hearts the race of Glenallan, ... they stood shouther to shouther".
 
Note that the shoulder is shown, not eaten - there's no reference to food here. Likewise, in a slightly later work of Scott's - St. Ronan's Well, 1824:
 
"I must tip him the cold shoulder, or he will be pestering me eternally."
 
Scott coined several phrases, e.g. 'lock, stock and barrel'. The fact that the two earliest known citations of'cold shoulder' come from his writing would suggest he coined this too.  
 
The phrase began appearing in print frequently after the 1820s and Dickens used it in 1840 in The Old Curiosity Shop. By that time it had migrated across the Atlantic and appears there in a 'letter to the editor' in the New England newspaper The Bangor Daily Whig and Courier, June 1839:
 
'... eminent individuals and his cabinet advisers turned "the cold shoulder" to their ambassador, for his independent act upon this occasion.'
 
Again, there's no connection here to food and the presence of quotation marks indicate that the phrase is being used allusively.
 
All in all, there is little reason to explain the derivation of 'cold shoulder' as anything other than a description of aloofness and disdain, and the source of it as Sir Walter Scott.  
 
 
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« Reply #7 on: Jan 23rd, 2011, 1:03pm »
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Awesome explanation Riada! That was way to vague a reference for MY simple ass, lol!  
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« Reply #8 on: Jan 23rd, 2011, 9:13pm »
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so...how many topics are happeneing in this thread??
or is it one of those old age things...
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« Reply #10 on: Jan 24th, 2011, 2:41pm »
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 Moving Forward, Back Where I Started...
 
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How do you feel when a person who once seemed to be a friend is really a temporary person in your life?
 
Most of us meet people who we consider friends, depending on the "definition" you want to give to that word. Some "friends" are not really so because they simply don't behave like friends. They are nice and fun when you talk to them but they never call you, ask for you, there is no real connection, as soon as you move away from that person, it's like he/she dies. Unless something really strange happens, you will never see that person again. Those are the "temporary people".  
 
Imagine your life is like an interstate- some people will go along with you for a long or short part of it, then they will split and never re-intersect with you.
 
It may seem sad but truth is that for some reason only God knows, there are people who could seem to be like  friends. Yet, after a few years, the person simply moves away and for some unknown reason, he/she will never intersect with you again. Some try to insist to keep in connection, but it is no more. You begin to be the only one who keeps the friendship. The other person is not interested, but because he/she does not want to be mean, keeps the friendship to not hurt you. It finally does not work out.  
 
Sadly, but when a person is destined to move away, it is time to accept it, they were not lifetime friends, they were people assigned by God to intersect with you at some point for a reason, when it is accomplished, God takes them away to other people and you ought to continue your life- both split and diverge, never meet again, unless they see each other in heaven.
 
But there is a lesson from every experience and nobody comes to your life for nothing. Be it a friend, or even a romantic partner whose relationship you develop does not result, there are things your learn for the future. Even good and loving temporary people in your life who fade with time give you something that will last until you die, and that is what that person represented. You may know people that were once very good friends and today do not exist.  
 
 
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« Reply #13 on: Jul 23rd, 2012, 8:30pm »
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I've been through a few "waves" or "sets" of friends and as people change, so do their interests and what drew them to you at one time may be what makes them move on later.
I make friends easily and if they gotta move on, I make more.   Smiley
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